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Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61429

I think that Invaders must die should be the music of the remontrants against the law ACTA! What do you think?
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61430

I actually support SOPA and ACTA.

I couldn't find a legit reason to be against them, and noticed that everyone against it kept using the words 'privacy' and 'free speech', but didn't give any actual reasons, it all seemed to be as if they had something to hide.
So I asked a question on Facebook, asking simply 'Other than to pirate things, why are you all actually against SOPA? Give me solid reasons, just not how much you hate it'
And the only answers I got were a couple of honest people who said
'To pirate things'
'to pirate shit...'

It's embarrasing when you have nations of people fighting against anti-piracy because they pirate. It's a case of free musicbeing given to people for so long, that they're now children stomping their spoilt feet saying 'NO', but knowing they're in the wrong.

Hear my words; STOP ONLINE PIRACY.
Don't give a shit if the prodigy jump on the 'fuck SOPA' bandwagon to get the public on their side, I want reasons goddamnit.

The pirates are the invaders.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61434

Have a read Martin, don't just ask some muppets on facebook.

action.ffii.org/acta/Analysis



www.petitiononline.com/stopacta/petition.html
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nothing to see here, move along

Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61436

Since last week in my country (POLAND) people protest at streets , but fuckin' goverment have got everything in dirty ass.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61437

Kev wrote:
Have a read Martin, don't just ask some muppets on facebook.

action.ffii.org/acta/Analysis



www.petitiononline.com/stopacta/petition.html

I just read it all; it's good to have a reason presented. Shame it's about third world prices of Microsoft Office and AID's.
Sorry but that doesn't mean artists should lose money and make music for free.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61441

martin i don't think you are understandig this subject. It's not just piracy we are talking about, other things will be affected like journalism.Have a look at this:

Oh and 1 more thing, don't be fooled, piracy is a good thing except for the big editors.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61443

It's funny you should mention journalism, for I am a huge supporter of 'real' journalism, not people with glorified blogs just reposting what they read from other news sites and tacking their unbiased opinion on it. Such 'journalism'.
Piracy isn't a good thing. Say I write a screenplay.
I sell it to a studio with a package deal to co-direct, and thus I get £20,000 plus residuals from the film's success. 20 years ago, the residuals could and would be substantial should the film succeed. (Which it would, as the screenplay would be fucking amazing) The profits from the film's success would be enough to support me not only for a full year, but also offer me financial security for producing my own film.

These days, it's a sad case of a) The studio's will give me fuck all because of piracy cutting overal profits, and b) My 'residuals' barely equal the 'fuck all' I was given, and I find myself with a total of aobut £10,000 for the year. I'd need benefits to survive or get another job. No chance of producing a film. The difference between the scenario's...in one you're enjoying success and have a steady career, in the other you're considered a failure who's spent a year earning less than people on benefits and are left off as bad as when you started. That's just one case, of screenwriters, of people being affected by piracy.

Don't even get me started on fucking music.

But going back to gonga mentioning journalism, this is a talk which touches on piracy a few times from a hardworking journalist, producer and sound engineer for Rockstar Games.


48:20 has questions from a guy who admits he pirates, interesting.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61444

Like the article Martinstatic,about grand theft lazlow.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61446

youtu.be/_URcT_Y1TME

Worth a look too.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61447

I like chicken but i like music...... fight!!! but stealing is stealing, we all do it, or have done and it has to be regulated at some stage. Why don't they deal with all those dodgy people and nasty shit online too though first please.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61448

They're being dealt with in their own way. Not as efficiently, but hey it is about time this is regulated.
Let me be monitored, let them watch what sites I visit.
I don't watch child porn, buy snuff films or scam people out of money, I got nothing to hide!
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61449

yeah if you have a big brother you may as well use them for good. With music copyright you should be able to limit the share or something. I dont get how its gone on for so long especially with films ... I am just waiting for the bubble to burst, see a mate storing as many files before everything gets taken off, which it will eventually. There is sharing and there is just stealing
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61450

Martinstatic wrote:
They're being dealt with in their own way. Not as efficiently, but hey it is about time this is regulated.

Let me be monitored, let them watch what sites I visit.
I don't watch child porn, buy snuff films or scam people out of money, I got nothing to hide!


Martin, i've been reading your posts here and i admit you have some good points but i disagree with your view. Hope you read my point of view:

How i wish i dominated english 100% to make my point clearer now .
Well i agree with you on some points (on my last post i expressed myself wrong, piracy has good and bad things). If we don't support what we like, like music, films, games, etc...,if we all pirate stuff maybe some day we will not have what we like, what entertain us. This is the bad side of this issue.

But its also a fact that piracy helps in some areas, like music and games. In both (music and games) i have downloaded something without paying (who hasn't?). But because i liked it so much i bought the game or the album. In fact if i didn't take this "path" i wouldn't have re-discovered prodigy music and therefore, i wouldn't have bought albums, and other merchandise. If it wasn't for youtube and other platforms, i wouldn't have discovered other less-known artists .

What i don't agree about acta or sopa, is that they will bring heavy and unnecessary changes. Take your avatar Mstatic with the prodigy logo for example. According to acta and/or sopa you are using copyright matterial and therefore committing a crime. But you are also advertising for free. Silly isn't it?

You like to watch Prodigy's gigs from the past online don't you? Well with acta you won't be able to anymore.

I think that part of the entertainement industry didn't adapt to the growing possibilites of the internet and they want to take a shortcut to achieve maximum profit. Let's take another exemple. Counter-strike is a popular shootem game that alows you to play against other people online. Many people download the game without paying for it (non-steam version), but by doing this they will only be able to play singleplayer (this apllies to other games). I did this and i was even able to play online in non-steam servers (which is not as cool as steam servers), but because i liked the game and the experience so much i bought it. What i meant with this example is that, in this case, people came up with a good ideia to face this problem, the ideia, in this case, is called steam, and like me many and many more individuals went from non-steam to steam because they enjoyed the game and they wanted more features and to have those features they had to buy the steam version.

People who experienced something for free and enjoyed it will probably buy it because you wont buy something unless you are sure you like it. You can see this everywhere, in movies you have the example of the twilight, harry potter and starwars fans, they can download the movies for free but many of them will start to collect related merchandise like books and clothes. In music some one discovers a band by a friend who shared mp3 files (will be illegal) and he will or not follow the band (isn't this a good advertisement?).

Keyword here is re-adapt i think. There's no need for us to be monitered even if we dont have nothing to hide, privacy is a right we have and we should't just throw it away just because some rich guys want to be more rich and they can't figure out good ideas to achieve that goal. You wont be able to share most of the things you share with you friends now with the excuse of it being copyright matterial even though this can be seen as an advertisement. If you think about it you will come to the conclusion that they want to end the internet.

What do you think?

ps: I apologise if there are many errors here, i dont dominate english completly...yet (i hope).
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61452

First, your english is perfect...if you didn't say sorry, I would have thought it was native!
Yeah it's true that a lot of people 'try before they buy' with piracy...but I think more people 'try...and don't buy'.
I've pirated films and games, and I can't think of many times I've bought them after pirating..

It's true many people get to hear about games and things through others who have pirated, but I remember (barely!) a time where you heard about things through word of mouth by others who have bough it. In the 90's I played Metal Gear Solid after seeing 2 or 3 other people playing it, and I got into the Prodigy because (embarassing...) my mum liked them.

I want things to just go back a little bit...when more compaines made a lot of money, instead of one or two companies now making all the money.

As for avatars and live shows, I don't think ACTA would take them down...it's just a backup security thing. All laws on paper are more strict than when in real life, it's just to make sure. I think ACTA or SOPA would just focus on piracy websites.

I see your point, and although it is true I still think we would survive without piracy.
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Re: Say NO to ACTA - Invaders must Die should be The music of the remonstrants ;) 1 year, 3 months ago #61453

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