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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54245

WayneB wrote:
The Prodigy is Liam. Max and Keef are employees. And dat a fact.


no it aint, i prefer bgat instrumental for example but it does feel like something is missing, it feels like liam wouldn't end up with that arrangement if he didn't have keith in mind to feel that gap
same thing with tmtth or colours, he is inspired if i may say that, by what keef and maxim can contribute and acts accordingly

always outnumbered as another example, to me it feels a lot tighter when i hear the spitfire or hotride vocals done live by keith or maxim to juliets vocals and thats why i don't see them as employees
it may be less than 10% a contribution but it's a catalyst


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Hoping that's a joke.


come on don't take it out of context, i'm just saying i wouldn't mind a little bit of funky or crazy, what liam did with girls & the michael jackson song & Shahin Badar in smbu..

and in not really onboard with full track vocals like in the Shootdown or Get up Get off; as i said a couple of times any "collaboration" ends up taking the form of liam sampling stuff and using them here and there as he pleases and i prefer that
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54247

There will be no vocal colaborations, if it's what liam says an album to play live. Doesn't anyone see the interviews- he doent want to have guest vocalists, which is fine by me
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54248

WayneB wrote:
purple squirrell wrote:
WayneB wrote:
How about an album made just by Liam, for Liam, with no guest vocals, collabs or any other shit?


That would be pretty cool, on the other hand I'd still like the joint effort of a prodigy album, it goes with the whole history, and I think it would be hard for liam on his own live without the others - rob, leo, maxim and kieth all make it the complete experience that it is now, cos its evolved


Rob - lucky to be on stage (countless others could do the same job)

Leo - lucky to be on stage (countless others could do the same job)

I agree with a lot you say PS, but to say Prodge wouldn't be the same without 2 session musicians is questionable.

Maxim - Legend and master of ceremonies live

Keith - OK, but wouldn't miss it if he didn't "sing" live

"I'd still like the joint effort of a prodigy album, it goes with the whole history" Only if you don't remember the pre-FS days, which I know you do

The Prodigy is Liam. Max and Keef are employees. And dat a fact.


THE PYRAMID EFFECT
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54251

purple squirrell wrote:
There will be no vocal colaborations, if it's what liam says an album to play live. Doesn't anyone see the interviews- he doent want to have guest vocalists, which is fine by me


yeah of course, im not just referring to vocal contributions thats why i mentioned the michael jackson song, im thinking about the mood and the vibe songs could have

i also think what the prodigy have been missing is that organic feel that climpatize and 3 kilos had, the thing that royksopp and mum do so well
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54254

WayneB wrote:
Preston723 wrote:
Employees that have been there for 20+ years though...


Granted mate. My point is, as it has always been, that yes Keef and Maxim are needed live as they add so much and it's what we have all grown up with, but when it comes to studio input they are not required to still have the Prodigy. If you look at the number of tracks they provide studio input on it is probably less than 10%.


I do agree with you on that. If Keith and Max left then The Prodigy could/would continue (AONO). I also agree with you in relation to this thread about levels of contribution towards studio production etc...
Where i stand on the whole thing is that i think Liam should be left to Production, which is basically the case. As i understand the other 2 have small input here and there. I think Keith was quoted in an interview saying something like 'Liam is the guvnor, democracies produce wishy washy bullshit music' I do think that if Keith and Maxim had a heavy influence on a new album it could be dangerous (Flint & Fallen Angel)
But Live... i love seeing Maxim and Keith on the stage and think all 3 work together perfectly. I wouldnt like to see The Prodigy without either of them as its what we all know and love. I even wish Leeroy was still around...
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54268

what i hope for the new album is that it doesn't sound so clean and polished like invaders and AONO. the main reason why jilted is my favourite album is because it sounds grimy, dirthy and hard. i can't really explain what i'm trying to say very well but you get the point.
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54272

WayneB wrote:
How about an album made just by Liam, for Liam, with no guest vocals, collabs or any other shit?


You can't doubt Keef and Maxim's heavy input on invaders ... Look at how shitty AONO was to Invaders Must DIe. What do you think was the main difference between the two albums then?
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54273

Skellz wrote:
WayneB wrote:
How about an album made just by Liam, for Liam, with no guest vocals, collabs or any other shit?


You can't doubt Keef and Maxim's heavy input on invaders ... Look at how shitty AONO was to Invaders Must DIe. What do you think was the main difference between the two albums then?



Experience is one of the best Prodigy albums ever and there was no keith or maxim imput there.
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54275

Skellz wrote:
WayneB wrote:
How about an album made just by Liam, for Liam, with no guest vocals, collabs or any other shit?


You can't doubt Keef and Maxim's heavy input on invaders ... Look at how shitty AONO was to Invaders Must DIe. What do you think was the main difference between the two albums then?


I prefer AONO to IMD actually. Just coz the masses loved IMD more than AONO doesn't make it better.
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54287

Valtiel wrote:

no it aint,


Yes it is. Liam is the guv, Keith and Keef are employed by Liam. That is the position as seen by the management anyway, unless you know something more that they don't?
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54291

WayneB wrote:


I prefer AONO to IMD actually. Just coz the masses loved IMD more than AONO doesn't make it better.


Well we all know how many of us really hung in there and kept the faith for AONO don't we
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54292

WayneB wrote:
Liam is the guv, Keith and Keef are employed by Liam. That is the position as seen by the management anyway, unless you know something more that they don't?


don't try to patronize me, it has never worked

once again, you are trying to make a point about their artistic value and contribution starting with some nice but condescending rationalizations (maxim master of ceremonies), all according to your self evident taste, in an attempt to argue their position in the prodigy being an addendum rather than fundamental and throw in some musically irrelevant technicality to gain credibility; switching it back and forth when ever it suits you

keith and maxim had a crucial input in invaders you play the aono card / for everything else the newly adopted employees move

the prodigy you talk about exist only in your head mate
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54295

Whilst it's sometimes comical seeing when you two cross paths in a thread, I can't help but see that Valtiel is just looking for something to argue with...look man if you disagree with what someone's saying, and it's not offensive, just laugh it off in your head.

I feel like the forum's getting cabin fever waiting for a new album.
Anyone else reminded of this episode?
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54296

Valtiel wrote:
WayneB wrote:
Liam is the guv, Keith and Keef are employed by Liam. That is the position as seen by the management anyway, unless you know something more that they don't?


don't try to patronize me, it has never worked

once again, you are trying to make a point about their artistic value and contribution starting with some nice but condescending rationalizations (maxim master of ceremonies), all according to your self evident taste, in an attempt to argue their position in the prodigy being an addendum rather than fundamental and throw in some musically irrelevant technicality to gain credibility; switching it back and forth when ever it suits you

keith and maxim had a crucial input in invaders you play the aono card / for everything else the newly adopted employees move

the prodigy you talk about exist only in your head mate


I'm not your mate, I stand by the fact that I think you're a sad cunt who contributes nothing and only nit-picks other peoples statements. As for Maxim being master of ceremonies, that was a quote of someone from the management team and I thought it had a nice ring to it, so I used it myself. A musically irreverent technicality? Only in your head.
Get some opinions of your own, post something worth reading and try and take a break from scrutinising others posts so much and grow a pair enough to actually have something decent to say.
Now, as I've said before, please fuck off. If you see me resorting to profanity as a victory then please claim it, anything to boost your ego, which you clearly require or else you wouldn't feel the need to try (and oft fail) to pick holes in the thoughts and opinions of others.
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The New Album??? 2 years, 3 months ago #54297

^ I see Mr. B is still as sharp.

(I guess that constitutes as 'licking arse' too, Flinty? )
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