TheProdigy

ComeSmackUpMyBitch wrote:

marilyn is not the guy who was in the wonder years as you have in the picture by the way FACT

I f*cking hate rockers, goths and all that b*llox, The Prodigy are a rave band :shock:

byrney wrote:

Quite open minded then arnt you...

I hated the way they all came along after FS and FOTL like the Prodigy was a new thing and like the Prodigy was "their" thing having cussed them for years as a crap dance act, doing crap dance tracks that only crap ravers go to as they don't appreciate real music. But, as always, I'm only talking about people I know, not all rockers in general.

WayneB wrote:


Exactly, there are always losers who don't realise a bands history, it's happened to me at plenty of gigs over the years.

Personally, I used to listen to early Prodigy stuff before the start of Britpop when I was like 8-10 years old. Then I went into mostly listening to club music, but now I have just caught up with the rock music I missed out on between 1998-2003-ish. Now I think I am quite open minded

WayneB wrote:


If you personally not into Rock at all then thats cool, but idiots that just go around saying "it's all bollox" piss me off as it's not "bollox", its just not to their taste.

Unfortuately it happens quite alot, you get people who are blinkered into only one type of music, and then people who think they know about all types of music and they start patronising people!

/Rant

I know what you mean, but what I really love about being into the electronic music scene is the unrivalled diversity of it. With a lot of bands you need a drummer, bassist, guitarist and singer, they need loads of practice to get any good, they need to get out there and the ones that make it big seem to usually because they have a commercial appeal. For "good" electronic music the opposite is true. With the exponential advancements in music technology even a 15 year old kid with his Dads laptop can now make incredbily complex, beautiful, hard, underground tracks, and thanks to the internet with sites like Beatport all this music is there for the taking. I've been called small-minded before for only being into electronic stuff (even though I love classical) yet to me electronica is the most open-minded genre there is, filled with a near infinite number of individual idioms that refuse to be categorised or subcategorised.
A rock album is often just that, an album full of rock tracks. Same goes for rap and the dreaded R&B. However the great electronic albums such as Jilted, Leftism, Protection / Mezzanine, Leave home etc are so fantastic as they encompass such a huge range of styles and influences into what is collectively an electronic album, yet they are so, so much more. Liam has got this down to a fine art which is why I believe he is the top of this particular game.
As for the rockers I know (and back when the Prodigy started for 95% of people I grew up with it was all about rock for many years it seemed) I just don't understand how these people hated Experience & Jilted, but after getting into FOTL they suddenly began to like it. The music never changed, it just seemed to me they liked the rockier tracks like FS and onwards but forced themselves to accept the earlier stuff and deluded themselves into thinking that they liked it because they had to due to loving the newer, rockier stuff. This may come across as arrogant but I've never let that stop me, if you don't consider artists like Leftfield, Massive Attack, Underworld, Orbital, Chemical Brothers (pre-block rockin' beats anyway), Aphex Twin, FSOL etc to be your top bands, then why do you listen to the Prodigy at all? These were their contemporaries, if you didn't like them back in the day then you didn't like the Prodigy either. At least that is how it worked with the people I grew up with. At the end of the day I might not like the new fanbase (especially the way they seem to me to have totally overlooked what the Prodigy was about and what it stood for, but also the agressive nature of a lot of the gigs now) but more fans means more money for the band which means more tracks being written and more tours to promote them. It's a necessary evil in my mind. After all if FS and FOTL had been flops then who's to say the Prodigy would not have gone Kaput after '97?
I personally do wish the Prodigy were just an act loved by the electronic crew, not just for my own selfish reasons and desire for a return to "my" Prodigy of old, but also because I have a long memory and remember the amount of stick, not to mention constantly feeling left out and ostracized because some of us loved music, we didn't just love what everyone else did to fit in, be cool, and be popular.
However, he who laughs last.......

I do understand what you mean. As a muscian myself but also having to work a normal job and pay bills and do house work etc etc, I dont have the time to make my musical ideas into a reality with other musicians. Therefore I'll sit down of an evening with Reason, a Midi Keyboard and put some ideas down. I can then come out with a half decent track.

Whereas as a producer I have recorded some demos for local bands and lets just say, "you cant polish a turd". Alot of bands do need to work on their performance and songs as together, they may not gel right. HipHop and RnB really get to me, there are so many "producers" and "MCs" who do actually create good quality (Quality rather than decent musical content) tracks as they are using electronic means. However often their song writing skills are much to be desired. They think because they know how to use a reverb plugin and a USB mic that they are now at the top of their game! Take BTEC Music Tech students at the local college, most will make repetative grimey stuff that all sounds the same, only a couple actually create interesting electronic music.

Fanbases are a tough one, the artist wants to get their music as far and wide as possible but often this comes with sometimes losing older fans. Rock bands do this as well, an epic first album is not always followed up a second album that the "hardcore fans" like.

Swings and roundabouts on all fronts IMO

I know it's an old topic, but I thought this would be a good addition to the thread.

Skellz please don't remind us, that's fuking horrible.

WayneB wrote:

Sorry for being off topic but I have to add a comment to your post.
I haven't been a 'true' Prodigy fan for nearly as long as you have but I've done my research. I even bought a biography of the Prodigy written by Martin James for 2$ at a local HMV and I read the whole thing in a week just to learn everything I absolutely could about the band that I love the most. One quote that stood out to me was said by Liam and it went something like: "I don't want the Prodigy to be one of those bands that you listen to a few times then get bored of the tracks, I want people to slowly discover us." Maybe you have an excellent ear for quality Breaks and got into The Prodigy in their early stages but there's no reason why someone can't be pulled in by their later work (FotL on) then slowly discover the greatness of Experience and Jilted. Hell, I know I did. My opinion of certain songs changed over time, as I became more intimate with each one, which is what Liam intended from the start. If that makes me a poser, so be it .

Just thought I'd add something to this too. I was into The Prodigy before I got into rock but can totally understand how some rock music fans could get into The Prodigy through FOTL era stuff and then grow to like the earlier rave stuff. For example, I used to think I didn't like hardcore metal but it grew on me after listening to earlier albums by rock bands who came from that scene. Its great when bands can offer a bridge between different syles of music and in the process open everyones mind. Most people would never listen to a new band with a style they are unfamilar with but if a band they already like has changed their style it gives the listener the extra push to experiment. I like the fact that so many rockers have been swayed by The Prodigy, and it doesn't suprise me that a lot of them don't like other electronic bands because there is no one like The Prodigy, they are the only electronic band that give off the same energy as a good live rock/metal band. They might not have always used guitars but they've always been very heavy and thats why they fit in with rock music so well.

WayneB wrote:


this sounds very familiar. I got a hard time at highschool because i was into what aussies call ‘dance’ (just a broad umbrella term they use for anything electro), which was such an uncool ‘woggy’ thing because i wasn’t into “real” bands like metallica, for example. Because i was literally the only one into oldskool prodigy/chemical brothers/faithless/propeller heads- (whatever happened to them!? etc) I was randomly nicknamed ‘kraftwerk’ which stuck throughout my WHOLE time at school. I got so used to it, by the end i just began answering to it. At the time i was too young, fresh and resilient to give a shit.if being called Kraftwerk everyday meant not being a metal head that was fine by me. Now on the odd occasion when i’m out at a club for example (under duress no doubt), and i bump into these guys they’ve all sold their souls, hidden all the tattoos, taken out the piercings , and are into all this gender-bending, hairdo’s, spray on jeans, and fucked up (empire of the sun/passion pit) Nu Disco bullshit, because metal isn’t “cool” anymore. I think it’s hilarious. No hard feelings. Though It’s funny now when we see eachother, none of them ever own up to giving me a hard time...

Annika Dimitrijevich wrote:



Sweet, al least someone gets the point I'm trying to make. So many on here think I am cussing them when I'm not even talking about them.
Although, a nickname like Kraftwerk at school would have been worn like a badge of honour for me. I still listen to the Propellerheads

SKRATCHY wrote:


Yes he does remind me of the late drag queen Divine. He's obese and he played Babs Johnson in one film by John Waters called Pink Flamingo.
[img]http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/05/divine_glenn_milstead.php

Nice necrobump...reading these posts has been cool. Personally, I loved rock/metal, but am bored to fuckery with it now, I can't get into any new bands (I don't mean new as in recent, I mean new as in new to me), it's so generic 4/4 for me, but I still love the bands I love, like SOAD, Rammstein, Static-X, Slipknot, Pantera etc

It was this boredom (2006-ish) that pushed me even closer to my Prodigy CD's and tapes and I just turned my back on all metal now. Occasionally my friend who is just getting into music and thinks the most trite and old of bands are new and amazing tries to send me new rock he thinks is fresh but it's the most generic stuff I've heard.

Breaks, samples and raping LFO's however, never gets old.